Recently I responded to a post from an associate on Facebook (FB) who was “wondering where to move to” in response to the passage of the health care bill. The use of the word “comrades” in the post, of course implied overtones of Communist government etc. It’s not the first time I’ve had an associate on FB use the term comrades as an example of their disappointment in the bill so, I made my contribution basically listing the countries of the world where the individual should not move to because that nation has some sort of nationalized public health care system. It’s a pretty long list, you see. The U.S. has this reputation of being the only industrialized country without some sort of nationalized public health care system.
One of the responses to my comment was a respectful disagreement with my opinion and an objection to “living in a Nation [sic] of Socialists in control” with the impetus that the U.S. Constitution will be “shredded”. This, to me is a very interesting response especially since Venezuela and China were also included as examples of “things gone wrong” presumably because socialists were in control. Without jumping on the specifics of why I disagreed with the use of Venezuela and China or counter arguments using examples of how “things have gone wrong” with Republicans purportedly to blame, I felt it important to explore why there was disagreement, feeling that it was more related to a fundamental difference in either philosophy, understanding, or semantics. But the comment was entirely too long to put up on my associate’s FB commentary. I mean, that’s just wrong to use someone else’s space like that without permission and when I have my own space for that sort of thing. Therefore, having given an overview of the back story, here’s my response to the person respectfully disagreeing with me in the hopes that a dialog will continue and the nation may be better for it. Names have been changed because it’s more appropriate.
[Respectful salutation], the U.S. Constitution hasn’t been changed and I don’t see how ensuring people have access to health is a violation of that constitution, though there is certainly no “right to healthcare” in that document. But then, there’s not a lot of law that has been passed in this 200-year trend in increasing Federalism that can be rested solidly on the U.S. Constitution. Of course, it depends on whether you read the U.S. Constitution as a legal or economic document, but that’s another discussion. Presently, I don’t think the passage of the health care bill has damaged the US Constitution nearly as much as some other legislation and executive orders have wounded the specified civil rights enshrined in the First Amendment.
But, perhaps I’m missing something in your argument so I’ll try to better understand it, if you don’t mind me working through it. I remember that more people favored better access to health care than those that didn’t. If my memory is accurate, it would support that a majority of citizens wanted a public health care bill, though not that they wanted this particular bill. Incidentally, polling also showed that most citizens didn’t want the actions included within PATRIOT ACT if it was going to curb their civil rights, yet we got that one anyhow – seemingly a ruling made against democracy. If a bill is introduced and a majority vote enacts it, how is that socialist? But I don’t believe this is where your objection lies, but I did think it necessary to address.
Please correct me if I misunderstand, but I think I understand that the real focus of your argument to involve an objection to people who advocate socialist ideas. I think it would be a correct statement to say that you object to people with socialist ideas being in offices of influence, and if so, then you may also object to people with socialist ideas being in offices of lesser influence or without offices at all, that is to say, you object to people with socialist ideals. Is there something about socialist ideals that is harmful? I’m not speaking of the popular concept of communist ideas (which is where, I think the invocation of “eh, comrade?” is from), and technically I’m not arguing for economically socialist ideas – though socialist ideas necessarily impact economics. When I speak of socialist ideas, I speak of the idea that if you have the means to help grow your society and provide for its people, you should. “An injustice against one is an injustice against all,” for example. I cannot abide by the idea that I should walk away from someone who needs help. I cannot think well of a society that treats a fellow human as if they should be forgotten about, discarded, or otherwise marginalized because “they do not rate”. I joined the military to serve my society, not just to better myself. And I appreciate that it is people with socialist ideas that fought against child labor and for public education, overtime pay, civil rights, and are still fighting for equal rights and equal pay. There is definitely trouble, though, with how to legislate, or whether or legislate this sort of social care, and I think that is the crux of your disagreement, you do not want laws to be written that make people pay for another’s care. Again, please tell me if I have misrepresented your opinion.
Perhaps this bill is not the best way forward and I truly mourn that this nation couldn’t see its way to work it out together. I doubt it could have been all sunshine and roses, but I am appalled that over the last few decades nothing constructive was done, language was used that should never have been entertained by those that we put into those offices with the idea that they should share the honor of service with such great thinkers as our nation’s founders. But to reject the idea that I should work towards the betterment of my fellow humans as I am able? I cannot think of something that would be more damning to my character and against my nature. I can instead only hope that anyone in authority anywhere would seek to serve the needs of all people and would articulate that need in a way that invites everyone to the table to work toward a common good of the society.
Lastly, I am sincerely glad you are interested in the work that our government is doing, and I hope you communicated these opinions to those that purport to represent you on Capitol Hill and in your State legislation. But I also hope that I’ve misunderstood you somewhere when you think that a socialist idea also means that we step closer towards being a ruled class anymore than I think we have already allowed.